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smitty-gw · Jul 08, 2005, 05:47 PM // 17:47

It always bothered me as to why Liv Tyler got billing over Viggo Mortensen in LotR.

Any thoughts?

Sir Skullcrasher · Jul 08, 2005, 05:52 PM // 17:52

she a hot chick so that why she get bill over Viggo Mortensen in LoTR

ManadartheHealer · Jul 08, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by smitty-gw

Any thoughts?

Yes, I have some thoughts: but they are most assuredly not affiliated with the Lord of the Rings

But, as I am posting here, I should definitely contribute to the topic at hand. So here are my relevant thoughts...

It really doesn't matter that poor Viggo made less, because all actors of his magnitude make so much money already. And, unlike a band, they don't have to waste it all on drugs.

So, really, it won't be any sort of problem in the long run I suppose

smitty-gw · Jul 08, 2005, 06:33 PM // 18:33

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Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher

she a hot chick so that why she get bill over Viggo Mortensen in LoTR

She didn't get billing over Frodo or Gandalf so your theory is now officially obliterated.

Swampgirl Inez · Jul 08, 2005, 06:36 PM // 18:36

I think it is because she was an up and coming actress at the time. Not many people had heard of Viggo then. Sean Astin and Elijah Wood were also mostly well-known actors and were in starring roles.

smitty-gw · Jul 08, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40

She had not and still has not established herself as a "big" actress, and btw she got billed way higher than Sean Astin.

They added more parts to the film for her character than any other. She barely appeared in the novels.

I agree that it was some sort of marketing scam, and an unfortunate one. Aragorn had LOADS more face time in that move than Arwen.

Viggo was robbed I tell you, ROBBED!!

Sir Skullcrasher · Jul 08, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47

now that you mention it, I did see more Liv Tyler in the movie than any other character, in fact she has more fact time in the third movie than christopher lee, who was the main villain and he didn't even made it into the film! now that something to be mad about

Swampgirl Inez · Jul 08, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

maybe she just has a better agent.... I'm sure daddy could afford it

smitty-gw · Jul 08, 2005, 07:11 PM // 19:11

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Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher

now that you mention it, I did see more Liv Tyler in the movie than any other character, in fact she has more fact time in the third movie than christopher lee, who was the main villain and he didn't even made it into the film! now that something to be mad about

1) He's in the special edition version of the film.

2) He originally was not mentioned after The Two Towers book until the very end of Return of the King.

3) You are absolutely high if you think Liv Tyler had the most face time.

4) Unless English is not your native language, those drugs are absolutely killing your normal cognitive processes.

Principa Discordia · Jul 08, 2005, 08:09 PM // 20:09

Enough with the personal attacks, if any of you bothered to read the forum guidelines (assuming you can read), you'd see that I am well within my rights to lock this thread. Instead, I choose to put it back on track, the subject is mature and makes a good point.

Ironically, yes, this was a personal attack. Feel free to get on with your lives.

Dragonkin · Jul 08, 2005, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Lets face facts here:

Liv Tyler is absurdly hot

Most fantasy fans are guys (sorry ladies)

Sex sells

And there you have it.

Pevil Lahuta's Pet Moa · Jul 08, 2005, 08:22 PM // 20:22

I just think you know too much... jus enjoy the movie

smitty-gw · Jul 08, 2005, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Dragonkin

Lets face facts here:

Liv Tyler is absurdly hot

Most fantasy fans are guys (sorry ladies)

Sex sells

And there you have it.

That's a good point.

Liv is quite attractive, but absurdly hot?

smitty-gw · Jul 08, 2005, 08:59 PM // 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Principa Discordia

Enough with the personal attacks, if any of you bothered to read the forum guidelines (assuming you can read), you'd see that I am well within my rights to lock this thread. Instead, I choose to put it back on track, the subject is mature and makes a good point.

Ironically, yes, this was a personal attack. Feel free to get on with your lives.

I wasn't maliciously attacking. sirskulkcrasher is obviously posting like that as a joke on purpose, right?

Principa Discordia · Jul 08, 2005, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty-gw

I wasn't maliciously attacking. sirskulkcrasher is obviously posting like that as a joke on purpose, right?

I deleted a number of stupid personal-attack posts, and some spam.

CatLady · Jul 09, 2005, 12:08 AM // 00:08

Hollywood politics.

Her lineage.
Her agent & herself making a good deal, for another.
She's been in well-respected if not popular films.
Viggo who?

Willow · Jul 09, 2005, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Shallowness aside, there is the concept of a "male lead" and a "female lead"- even though LotR is essentially an ensemble peice, Arwen is the closest thing there is to a 'female lead.'

Kazahana · Jul 10, 2005, 10:15 AM // 10:15

i just think shes hot but everything aside were was tom bombadil in the fellowship of the ring (page 130 chapter 6 the old forest) and what about the last few chapters with sharkey taking over the shire??? i would have likes to see those parts

wow im a dork....

Rayea · Jul 10, 2005, 11:17 AM // 11:17

no, kazahana, your just a fan, like the rest of us ^^

and yeah, i think they addedd the bits for arwen and aowny (sp) cause otherwise, the story is going to come under heavy flack from the PC (political corectness) and feminist angle.
i admit it, im a girl, and i always read fantasy books, and love to play rpg and coloect the stuff, and as long as i stay away from games workshop items, i can find female charaters lol.
but i do think that LotR is, at its essence, a boys-go-forth-and-do-stuff-huzzah! type book.
if they didnt add some strong women chars, then there would be twice as much guy-guy yaohe (sp) about arragorn and legolas going about, and whoa, it would become the fantasy equivelent or Prisscilla, queen of the desert (which, admitidly, shares an actor, the guy that played elrond ^^)

*befor anyone screams, not saying that the chars, the writer or the film maker were gay ect. the writer just liked to be around blokes, to hang out with blokes.* (i dont hang out much with girls, so does that make me a anti-lesbian? nope, i just dont have much to talk to with other girls heheh)